How can ideators make a living exclusively by coming up with new ideas?
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Darko SavicApr 18, 2022
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Necessity
Is the problem still unsolved?
Conciseness
Is it concisely described?
Bounty for the best solution
Provide a bounty for the best solution
Bounties attract serious brainpower to the challenge.
How can freelance professional ideators make a living doing nothing but coming up with new ideas?
Some people that might be willing to pay for ideas are those who:
need their problems solved (seeking to hire consultants, offering bounties)
need progress to be achieved faster (offering grants, bounties)
had their problems solved by others and want to pay them as a sign of appreciation (tips)
are forced to by law due to patents
who else?
What it takes to come up with a good idea vs executing it
How can talented ideators earn a regular income from their ideas alone (without execution)? Think of ways someone can make a living by offering solutions to people's problems.
Provide R&D departments with fresh perspectives by deploying temporary teams of generalist ideators
Darko SavicApr 22, 2022
A service that provides temporary teams of talented generalist ideators to infuse fresh perspectives into specialized Research and Development teams.
Ideator-lending agencies can be set up anywhere in the world. The Brainstorming platform makes it easy for them to find/hire the ideators for temporary jobs. As long as they find work for the ideators, they can turn a profit.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, I believe that the key to developing a succesful Brainstorming platform is to create value that does not exist elsewhere.
I would suggest that Challenges offer the route to that value creation, and that a job agency dilutes the uniqueness and competive advantage of the platform.
So, R&D departments and other similar organisations and individuals could sponsor research Challenges on Brainstorming. This would not only raise the value of rewards, but also enhance Brainstorming's image, as a professional problem-solving platform.
For details of Challenges, including research, see sections 3.40/notes 7-14; 6.10, 9.10 and for completion, 15.00 of value proposition here.
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Establish some idea-banks
Subash ChapagainApr 19, 2022
What if there existed some kind of bank for ideas?
If you have an idea that is plausible and that can solve issues in any field, you just go to the bank and deposit it.
The bank doesn't directly cash in the ideas.
The bank works as a facilitator.
If I have an idea for a p problem X, I go and deposit it to the idea bank nearby. Then the bank can issue me a cheque equivalent of a solution which I can later use whenever I come across a problem.
In this way, the bank just operates as a bartering platform where I deposit one idea and take away another solution that is deposited by the other users. This can be made as broad or as narrow, given enough number of users.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Subash Chapagain, ideas may not be "bankable" in the sense that they are work in progress and cannot actually be relied on as workable, until proven by way of end products, etc.
They also depreciate with time, since there is always the likelihood that similar and better ideas could be developed and registered as patents, etc by others; or come into the public domain by other means.
In the circumstances, the ideas could be rendered in danger of patent and other IP rights violations, while incuring expensive banking costs.
In view of the above, the banking route would seem unwise and an expensive futility, considering that the idea banking would not be provided as a free service.
It would also appear to generate a reliable income stream for the banks, but not the idea creators, defeating the object of the challenge.
Besides, high street banks may not be permitted by legislation to undertake such an activity, as it may be considered to fall within the realm of investment.
One may then argue that investment banks could diversify to idea banking.
However, the complexity and exorbitant costs associated with investment banking could render the proposed service inaccessible to the ideators themselves, considering that they may not be experienced in the investment landscape.
That said, a dedicated idea and solution platform, like Brainstorming could become a better facilitator.
Here, there are potential opportunities for idea creators to actively enhance the value of their ideas through many vehicles, including, but not limited to these outlined below.
Speculatively, identify and approach key organisations and individuals, who might have vested interests in the ideas.
If successful, invite the organisations and individuals to fund the development of the idea, where the organisations might be strategic investors, and the individuals, sophisticated investors.
Idea creators may develop the ideas with the investors or others privately and without the involvement of an intermediary.
Alternatively, they may decide to leverage network effect to invite the investors or others to sponsor challenges aimed at building best-in-class teams to develop the ideas into value propositions in an incubator.
Once developed, the value propositions could be offered for acquisition, joint venture or fundraising in a marketplace.
Brainstorming has the potential to be such a fertile platform and facilitator, as proposed in sections 3.40, 3.50/notes 7-18; and 9.00 here, read in the context of the draft document.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
I feel like this is going in the right direction but we are missing a key component that makes it feasible. Namely, ideas cannot be patented - especially once they are shared. Anyone that learns about them, can pretty much do whatever they want with them.
The solution might be that ideas should belong to everyone right from the beginning, but the ideators should get some compensation for sharing them with the world. This sounds like the marketplace for ideas.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, regarding the perception that 'ideas cannot be patented', it all hinges on the nature of ideas - the form in which they have been expressed and exist.
As discussed previously, ideas are not patentable, until they are expressed as applications or processes, showing how the ideas work.
Besides, all forms of ideas could invoke 2 types of intellectual property (IP) rights: trade secrets and copyrights. The former rights are generally protected by strict non-disclosure, or individual agreements (e.g. CDA, NDA, etc). The latter are created automatically and do not necessarily need to be registered.
You may be interested in my comments on Subash Chapagain's contribution earlier regarding copyrights, here.
Again, as discussed elsewhere, the thesis that ideas should belong to everyone seems counterintuitive to the very problem you are seeking to solve - in effect, finding ways for ideators and problem solvers to make a living from their skills exclusively.
It restrains opportunities for sustainable income streams, rather than empowering ideators and problem solvers to decide whether or not their creation should be public intellectual property.
There is also the factor, where nothing prevents anyone from copying and patenting ideas published on Brainstorming, allowing others to benefit from the commercial value of ideas created by the original ideators and problem solvers.
I would suggest publishing ideas sheared on the platform with the full details (including illustrated graphics) of how they might work.
In that way, others would be prevented from patenting the same proposed applications or processes, as they would be considered in the public domain and therefore, not unique.
In other words, the original creators could publish patent-quality materials of their ideas on the platform, without making patent applications.
Another reason for allowing ideators and problems solvers to decide whether to publish their IP or apply for patent is that they may also choose to donate part or whole of their valuable commercial patents to good causes, generating significant income for the recipients.
As to your suggested means of compensating ideators, it raises many issues, as mentioned earlier, here.
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Establishing problem-solving as a professional sport "played" on an international level
Darko SavicMay 02, 2022
The establishment of problem-solving as an international sport where teams compete to win titles by solving the world's problems. Forming national teams and associations of ideators that compete for international challenges.
Why?
As Goran Radanovic puts it: This will pave the way for making a career out of solving problems. When you offer a cash prize, people view the sphere as a profession and many go into the field to become better so they can compete at the highest level.
The prestige of winning a title and being featured in the media as a winner is another factor that will draw people to this.
The full idea description is here.
p.s. I'm not competing to win my own bounty. I'm just putting this out because it belongs on this page.
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Employed ideators
Christopher LutzMay 11, 2022
On this platform, there could be a handful of full/part-time employed ideators. People with problems could contact them for quick solutions.
Ideators could then provide solutions to the problems they feel as if they can help with, or provide research towards the problem and potential solutions. If said employee cannot help, they could act as an intermediary and help find Someone who can.
This I guess wsould be offered as a Service to people and one could charge a small fee for services offered.
This service could be offered by platforms like Brainstorming.com but also as freelance work.
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Mikhail Korsanov3 years ago
Do you have opps to develop marketing part for this business?
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Michaela D3 years ago
I like this idea. Each person will have a portfolio of ideas and contributions that interested clients can review before deciding who to hire. Payment would be either based on time or if this is combined with Povilas S idea for entrepreneurs they can also have a small portion of the profit.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Christopher Lutz, the principle is shared, but the contribution leads to a chicken-and-egg dilemma.
Brainstorming needs sustainable income in order to employ or appoint ideators, and the ideators cannot be employed or appointed by Brainstorming, since it has no means of generating income - so far.
Your contribution could become viable if Brainstorming had sufficient sustainable income streams to support ideators' salaries and/or fees.
In my view, a practical solution to this problem could be making Brainstorming attractive to professional sponsors and ideators, as suggested in my comment onContrived _voice's contribution.
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Effectively connect ideators with potential executors of their ideas
Povilas SMay 18, 2022
Effectively connect ideators with potential executors of their ideas, the executor is likely to tip the ideator for coming up with the idea he/she wants to execute and even hire the ideator for consulting during the execution process
How it works: Various entrepreneurs subscribe to get ideas relevant to their field of interest. They might pay a subscription fee or this step might be free. They get informed (newsletters, notifications, etc.) of new ideas posted by the ideators which might be of interest to them. A recommendation algorithm "decides" which ideas to recommend to which entrepreneurs.
Personal data tracking is a privacy issue, but given the extent to which the tracking algorithms can "get to know you" the entrepreneurs could be matched very effectively with particular ideas they'd wish to try executing.
Once the entrepreneur finds something he/she thinks is worth giving a try, they can contact the ideator directly, discuss the idea and decide whether and how they want to continue collaborating.
I think a good way to repay the ideator for coming up with the idea and collaborating during the execution process would be to grant a certain share (even if very small) of profit once (and if) the idea execution is successful and profit starts coming. This could be done by signing a dedicated legal agreement.
Another way would be to simply pay the ideator during the collaboration process as a freelance consultant, hourly or otherwise.
Things to note: Some entrepreneurs might just take the idea and forget about the ideator - yes, but I think most would not, this is because it gives a certain reassurance and a sense of stability to be able to consult with the person who came up with the idea. An idea, however well it is described, is not a patent, not a blueprint, there are usually many questions and things the potential executor would want to discuss with the idea author.
I think most entrepreneurs would also not be greedy to tip the ideator just for coming up with the idea they think is worth executing.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
On Youtube, people forget to upvote videos even though they really enjoy them. Because of this, creators have to remind them to "please like and subscribe". And likes are free. Giving a tip not only takes money but also some work on the giver's side. We should think about this concept further to make it feasible and people more "trigger happy" with tips.
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Povilas S3 years ago
Darko Savic Enjoying an idea and deciding to act upon executing it is not the same. That's why I think someone who decides to do something about the idea is much more likely to not forget to tip. But yes, there should definitely be encouragement from platform's side. Make sure that a statement "if you decide to try executing the idea, please consider tipping its' author" won’t go unnoticed by the users. Do the same about the tip button and implement a convenient user interface.
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Miloš Stanković3 years ago
To make the process more profitable, after the subscription fee for using the platform, the executors could find themselves in a Shark Tank-like bidding war. Basically have a live presentation of the idea after it was scheduled and announced with the ideator's name and the field stated. Then, after a brief presentation, the executors bid for it. Offering a percentage of the profit, flat fees, and other benefits. The ideator chooses the best offer.
For the "things to note" aspect: Well, we could combine this with your other idea of presenting only a partial part of the idea until the idea is bought by the executor.
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Marketplace for ideas
Darko SavicApr 18, 2022
Effectively a paywall for an ideator's top 10% of ideas, while all the rest are shared freely to show that the ideator's top ideas are worth paying for. This is described in detail on the marketplace for ideas page.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, ideas are quite unlike the creative content you alude to on Patreon and Medium (I will come to the platforms shortly).
Essentially, ideas are "intellectual raw materials" and not finished products/content. They are likened to cocoa beans, but not Bounty chocolate, for example.
So, trying to market and sell ideas as something they are certainly not, would seem unrealistic.
Another fundamental issue is that I do not get the sense that the target market has been considered.
You would need to know precisely who the target customers are - i.e. those who would appreciate the value of "intellectual raw materials".
If you do, the ideas themselves have to be of high quality and value to make them attractive to the target market, keeping in mind their intrinsic value - potential to solve market problems.
The other issue is that ideas as a market is new and should not be treated in the same way as established markets.
I would also suggest you think carefully about relying on any internet-based content subscription model, putting aside points raised above.
Written-content subscription especially, is generally unsustainable, as the content can be obtained elsewhere on the Internet, free of charge. The fact that newspapers now rely on donations says a lot about written-content subscription model
Additionally, Medium has also unwittingly exposed the unsustainability of written content subscription model. It induces movement away from content quality to focus on attention-grabbing content - hence the proliferation of unrealistic articles published on the platform.
Music and other entertainment subscription models appear to succeed because the content has a long history of strict control by single-point rights holders and copyright law.
Again, I would strongly suggest you take a careful look at sections 3.50/notes 15-18; 4.00-7.00, in conjunction with the whole document.
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pooling problems and pooling solvers
Contrived _voiceApr 18, 2022
To get paid enough for providing solutions, there needs to be enough problems for everyone to solve.
If you could pool enough problems together, find people to reliably solve those problems and provide a metric for satisfaction with the solutions provided, then you could make it possible for a marketplace of pure ideation to exist.
The more problems the solvers face, the more problem-solving tools they inadvertently pick up. Making the system more sustainable as it progresses.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Contrived _voice, quite right, but the question undoubtedly, remains how to actually create the suggested pool.
A practical way to do that with the necessary network effect could simply be this: making Brainstorming attractive to, on the one hand, organisations and key individuals (professionals, investors, etc) to sponsor high-value challenges, etc; and on the other, professional problem solvers to provide high-quality solutions expected by the professional sponsors.
The network-effect experience could then be enhanced by diverse ancillary services to create a complete ecosystem, which offers unique value to the sponsors, as well as sustainable income streams to the value creators and platform.
For more details, you may take a look at this draft document.
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Problem-solving as a street shop service where ideators come up with solutions to peoples' problems
Darko SavicApr 19, 2022
General problem-solving services. People consult ideators about their problems at a street shop. Upon researching/thinking, the ideator gets back to them with solutions.
p.s. I'm not competing for my own bounty even though it may seem so. My contributions are exempt from the bounty.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, a chain of Brainstorming Idea & Problemsolving Shops is certainly a viable income stream for the platform, Ideators and Problem Solvers, as suggested here. It is also an integral part of Brainstorming multiplatform shops. For proposed Brainstorming Shops, how the Offline Shop could work, and potential income streams, see sections3.80, 9.14 and 4.00 respectively of proposed draft preliminary business plan here.
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Reverse engineering the cash flow | New solution: Ideators pay a small fee to contest for a bounty
Shubhankar KulkarniApr 20, 2022
In response to Darko Savic's comment on Subash Chapagain's contribution "Establish some idea-banks", all models that would make money for the ideators need a source for cash inflow. If you need to pay the ideators, it needs to come from somewhere. If the ideas are not patented and are freely available to everyone, you stop the inflow of cash. Then you need to look for other sources. As you mentioned in the marketplace for ideas, Medium uses subscriptions as a source for cash inflow. It then distributes it among the top creators. However, the difference between Medium and brainstorming.com is that Medium caters to a larger audience, not necessarily those that have a problem they need to solve using collective brainstorming. Same is with Quora. People post challenges on Quora and other users answer them. "How do I invest my money?" is a challenge worth posting on Quora but not brainstorming-worthy. This reduces the kind of content that can go on brainstorming.com (this is definitely not a bad thing). Therefore, brainstorming.com caters to ONLY the brainstorming-worthy needs of its users, who are fewer. People may go on with their lives having no brainstorming-worthy problem at all. If you try to quantify the frequency of incidence of brainstorming-worthy problems in a person's life, you will find that they are magnitudes smaller than Quora-worthy problems. Therefore, using subscriptions as a source of cash inflow may not be the best strategy for brainstorming.com.
What other sources of cash inflow are possible, even hypothetically?
Brainstorming.com pays for the content - not viable in the long run
Ideators pay a small fee to be part of a pool. For example, the bounty sessions are funded by the ideators that take part. This is like paying an entry fee for a competition. Towards the end, this pool is distributed among the top contenders. - Ideators may not contribute to sessions that they feel they might not win, decreasing the contenders, and therefore, the pool amount.
People who may use the ideas pay for them - This is the only viable option I see. Even though the buyers do not hold exclusive rights to the ideas since they are in the public domain, they may benefit from using them, and would, therefore, pay the ideator. These include VCs, investors, bounty providers, etc.
Philanthropists, those who are willing to help even though there is no personal gain - these sources are not dependable since they are not bound to pay the ideators.
Therefore, only people who may use the ideas will pay for them. What ways could they employ?
Bounties - not new
Tips - not new
Subscriptions - ideas on brainstorming are free and hence, subscriptions are not possible.
Invest in ideators before they come up with an idea
Buy and execute the idea and pay the ideator - since the ideas are free, they are not bound to pay the ideator
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Miloš Stanković3 years ago
The issue with the 2nd proposition is that it's open to scams. Someone might post a challenge, get a lot of people to pay to compete, and then just select their friend as the bounty winner.
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Shubhankar Kulkarni3 years ago
Miloš Stanković Yes, heavy moderation from the platform will be needed if the bounties are crowd-funded. Of course, the platform will keep some part of the bounty to fund the moderation work.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Shubhankar Kulkarni, Brainstorming is a potential unique platform (with multiplatform opportunities) quite unlike Quora and others.
This is in the sense that the platform addresses specific market needs, namely: Ideation and Problem Solving with potential non/commercial, equity and IP-rights applications (for proposed definitions of Brainstorming, see section 2.30 here).
This means that the main target market is Organisations and key Individuals, including professionals, investors, etc. As to target investors, the focus is on those who invest their own money, but not intermediaries, like VCs (for more info, see section 7.00/note 3 here)
The target Organisations and Individuals engage in seeking the expertise of Value Creators (Ideators and Problem Solvers) by sponsoring a variety of Open (public) and Closed (private) Challenges with high-value rewards, to address the specific needs of Sponsors, including general, research, etc (see section 3.40/notes, for more details here).
Ideators and Problem Solvers may, in addition, initiate Reverse Challenges by offering their value propositions for private sale, development, joint venture (JV) or fundraising in the Marketplace.
They may also collaborate to develop value propositions in the Incubator, hosted with the Marketplace on Brainstorming.
Sponsors may participate in the Marketplace and Incubator by paying to Brainstorming, standard or subscription charges. The charges are then shared proportionately with the relevant Ideators and Problem Solvers.
This eliminates the need for Ideators and Problem Solvers to pay any fee in order to participate in the very value they create.
For full details of how Challenges and Marketplace Fundraising could work, see sections 9.10 and 9.22 respectively here.
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Leave part of the idea behind the paywall
Povilas SMay 16, 2022
Give summary of the idea for free, leave the details behind the paywall. Make the price for accessing full ideas of certain ideators fluctuate depending on the satisfaction of those who paid to review their ideas in the past. Start small and if the ideator builds a base of satisfied customers, he/she can raise the price for reviewing their full ideas.
The price might also rise depending on the number of likes, reviews, interests, etc. in the partially hidden idea, it could be ever-fluctuating. The ideator him/herself could decide which of their ideas they want to leave behind the paywall.
Make the process of revealing the details to others who are interested in the same idea, once paid, difficult, e.g. disable interactions between users (commenting, posting pictures, etc.) on that idea page until you paid to fully review it.
Given the standard for ideas, which is currently valid on the platform, the "how it works" part could be left behind the paywall.
Differently from your solution "the marketplace for ideas" this allows everyone (not only the dedicated moderators) to become familiar with every specific idea so that the users can get a sense of what they'll actually be paying for. It also allows for the idea to get votes/gain followers in advance. This can help to adjust the price of the idea on the go.
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Mikhail Korsanov3 years ago
In fact this is not targeted solution. Most clients are not interested in all ideas of an ideator. So paid access is not understandible for what?
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Darko Savic3 years ago
For ideas that are semi-public people could see just the tags and maybe some parts that the ideator chose to unmask. For example, something from the "Why?" section could be unmasked and maybe parts of the title, etc.
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Ideators get paid just like artists - for providing interesting and inspiring content
Povilas SMay 18, 2022
An ideator is not much different from an artist, they might be considered the same. So ideators might get paid using the same or similar models that platforms like onlyfans and patreon use to provide people, who gain followers there, with income.
An even simpler approach - a platform provides you an interesting and inspiring content to read, you pay a monthly subscription fee, part of this fee goes to the ideators who write content there (Spotify way). The moderators could either review each content piece and decide which ones are suitable for showing to the paying users, or the ideators could need to pass a certain quality testing period there first to be able to get paid, or both.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
Original ideas could be put on the market as NFTs. As art, they could be valuable with time when the ideator achieves something great and makes a name for themselves.
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Povilas S3 years ago
Darko Savic What about the problem described in the second paragraph of that wiki article?:)
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Darko Savic3 years ago
Povilas S yes, I share that view:) Publishing an idea as a NFT is still arguably better for the ideator than sharing it with no strings attached. Might be the same, might be better.
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Retainer agreements
Spook LouwApr 27, 2022
I believe the best way for ideators to make a living by coming up with ideas and solutions is to build up a network of clients with whom he/she has retainer agreements.
What is a retainer agreement?
"A retainer agreement is a long-term work-for-hire contract between a company and a client that retains ongoing services from you (as a consulting business) and provides you with a stable amount of payments. It’s different from other pricing models in a way that the client or customer pays in advance for professional work to be determined later."
In order to do this, an ideator will need to prove his/her abilities to gain the trust of potential clients. This can be done by offering your services for free at first, to prove your value, or by building up a portfolio that demonstrates your abilities (Brainstorming could be a good platform for ideators to build up a portfolio).
Why?
Stability - Signing a contract will provide stability to both the client and the ideator.
Saving time - Clients will save time by not having to look for freelancers to solve their problems and ideators will save time by not having to look for work.
Regular income - Ideators would be able to have a predictable income, which is more convenient than the stressful process off constantly having to be searching for more work to secure your next paycheck
Improved work - Being contractually linked to a company will incentivize ideators to produce their best work in order to keep the job and they will also be able to invest more energy into the relevant ideas/problems as they will not have to be working on multiple other projects at the same time. It will also allow ideators to get to know their clients better, which means they will understand the client's vision and make sure that their ideas/solutions are in line with what the company is working towards.
Working as an ideator (to my knowledge) will be a new industry, consultants have worked on retainer contracts for a while, but these are usually in more specialized fields like law, so to create a brand new position for yourself you would first need to be able to prove your value to potential clients. Therefor, you would need to offer your services for free, or compete for bounties on Brainstorming first, in order to show how a company can benefit from your services.
On the platform, people could create private brainstorming groups (think tanks) and invite/add different ideators. Each would be paid a monthly retainer and because of it be available for brainstorming on any problem that the client puts forward.
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Spook Louw3 years ago
Darko Savic Businesses could even pool together to create a fund to keep a set number of brainstormers on retainer, this way it could work out quite cheap for businesses while still being a stable source of income for the Brainstormers. They could handpick the Brainstormers they want and know that they will always have access to their insights, along with whoever else is sponsoring the specific group.
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Unsolicited problem-solving as a sponsored activity
Darko SavicApr 18, 2022
Sponsored problem-solving where sponsors pay ideators for the time spent coming up with unsolicited but useful ideas that are then shared with the world.
By paying for an ideator's time so that they can think and come up with ideas, the sponsors are in a way pre-paying for the ideas. They are betting that their ideator will come up with useful ideas that are worth spreading. When they do, the sponsor's name will accompany the idea in its original place of origin.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, there are 3 main ways ideators and problem solvers could generate sustainable income on Brainstorming - active, passive and speculative.
The speculative route involves the Marketplace. Ideators and problem solvers could propose ideas for and solutions to identified organisational problems speculatively.
This could lead to invitations of organisations and individuals to challenge sponsorship or fundraising in the Marketplace (section 3.50/notes 15-18 here).
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Solve challenges to win an occasional bounty
Darko SavicApr 18, 2022
Some challenges come with bounties attached. By contributing to the best of their ability an ideator is likely to win some.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, Challenges, as opposed to Idea Sharing and Solution Sharing, should be sponsored with rewards/bounties attached (high-value rewards offered by Organisations, etc), as one of the main income streams for Brainstorming, Ideators and Problem Solvers.
By participating in Challenges, etc, Ideators and Problem Solvers have opportunities to establish collaborative relationships with sponsors, ensuring sustainable sources of income.
For more info, see sections 3.00, 3.20-3.40 here.
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Help people out for tips
Darko SavicApr 18, 2022
Pay it forward with ideas that solve people's problems. Make sure they know how to leave a tip if the idea made a difference. This Brainstorming platform will soon include a tipping feature.
An ideator could contact companies that could benefit from some idea. End with "If you find this idea helpful please remember where it came from. My bitcoin wallet is ..."
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Darko Savic, tipping seems self-defeating in the sense that it undermines the very thing you are trying to initiate - professionalising ideation and problem solving (collectively, value creation).
Yes, value creators may approach companies or other organisations speculatively to present ideas for products and services; or solutions to identified organisational problems (pain points).
The value creators are creating prospective value and competitive advantage, which may or may not be recognised and exploited by the organisations.
If successful, as a normal business practice, the organisations would expect to compensate the value creators fairly and possibly, with attractive arrangements to prevent the value creators from falling into the hands of competitors.
The value creators may also invite the organisations to sponsor incubator and/or teambuilding challenges to develop the ideas and solutions in the proposed Brainstorming Incubator.
The above opportunities could trigger a flow of potential income streams for the ideators, problem solvers and Brainstorming, as proposed. For more details of incubator/teambuilding challenges and potential income streams, see sections 3.40/notes 7-14 and 4.00 respectively here.
In the circumstances, for the value creators to then ask the organisations for tips, if they found the ideas or solutions useful, simply under values their own worth and is unprofessional.
Alternatively, value creators may use their skills strategically. They may ask organisations to donate compensation for their ideas and solutions to chosen good causes - opening a whole range of philanthropic opportunities (e.g. challenges, marketplace, etc).
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In current society it's not exactly possible.
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Isamu DysonApr 19, 2022
You already seem to have some idea of when it's possible. But for average people like myself all I ever hear are phrases like "ideas are a dime a dozen it's execution that matters". Not only that, but ideas aren't exactly a something that can be protected by the law. So what can you do? It's beyond me, but for you it might be possible to change things, you seem wealthy enough to throw around $2000 bounties, and to get this site built. In simple terms an idea empire needs to built. A business that can protect and build people's ideas. Most companies already do this for their employees, but you need to be an employee first, which is a difficulty of it's own.
So start actually helping people get their ideas built. Make a start up incubator. Connect people who have ideas to people who will build them.
It all will cost a lot of money. Ideas are expensive to execute, the only way around that is if it happens to be your skillset, then you can lower the price by building your own idea.
Also this is another key thing, but once successful don't stop building other's ideas and don't get greedy. Every major company started with a good idea or several good ideas. But they eventually stopped the ideas coming or got greedy and began hindering ideas instead.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Isamu Dyson, at the time when horses were the main means of transport, the major public complaint then was that a certain new invention "would scare the horse". That new invention was called the motor car.
In relatively recent times, another major new invention was dismissed as "a passing fad". That invention is the Internet.
The point is that considering new ideas and solutions from an entrenched position of the current thinking is not always helpful. However, asking how new ideas and solutions would improve the status quo could be a better way to view new approaches.
Darko Savic seems to have a potential unique idea but the challenge is to focus on transforming Brainstorming into a viable value proposition.
Nevertheless, your main thesis is interesting in that it proposes that 'in current society, this challenge is not exactly possible', considering that ideas are not protected by law; but that the route to realising ideas could be startup incubator.
First, I strongly believe that the challenge is possible with focus and discipline.
Second, while ideas in themselves may not have the same registrable protection as patents and other IP rights, they are, however, capable of being trade secrets (IP rights) protected by law in other ways, through the mechanisms of CDAs or NDAs (contract law) and copyright law. This is a complex subject for another discussion.
You are correct in suggesting that startup incubator offers a viable sustainable income stream. I add that it is workable if streamlined into the perceived Brainstorming vision.
So, Brainstorming has the potential to harness the inherent synergy into a realistic possibility. As mentioned previously, this challenge could be achieved by Active, Passive and Speculative sources of income.
For more info about this, incubator and marketplace, take a look at my contribution and response to that of Shubhankar Kulkarni.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
There are already many incubators, VCs, and angel investors that focus on the execution of ideas. But there are also ideators that come up with more ideas than they can possibly execute. I'm trying to come up with incentives for them to keep perfecting their skills while making a living in the process. It's about making problem-solving worthwhile for talented people who come up with useful ideas but have no plans/desire to execute them themselves.
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Isamu Dyson3 years ago
Darko Savic Those incubators/VCs only fund specific types of people who have connections i.e. stanford graduates. I'm an idea person, I'll always come up with ideas, but no one will execute them not a VC not an incubator. They have no confidence that my ideas are good, even if they sound good on paper. Idea creators can get paid easily, as long as someone is willing to execute those ideas.
That is what I said was lacking. People willing to execute them, that is why a business around executing ideas needs to be made. One that isn't greedy for excessive profits, and one that doesn't limit where the ideas come from.
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Invest in ideators like you invest in stocks
Shubhankar KulkarniApr 20, 2022
Invest in ideators like you invest in stocks - not when the ideator has come up with a great idea but before they have any ideas that could be potentially big. When the ideator comes up with a viable idea, the investor can buy the idea from the ideator or sell it to other investors if they are not comfortable executing it. The investor will keep some share of the sale as returns for their long-term investment.
Why?
Ideators need money to even come up with an idea. They need to work on their idea full-time, and a job (that pays for food, rent, etc.) may be a hindrance. The current idea of investing in ideators will benefit the ideator such that they could focus on creating something awesome.
Usually, when an idea has shown potential, investors need to invest a lot to be a part of it. When there is no idea, investors can invest less (like an SIP, monthly). The current idea will also benefit the investor.
More information is provided on the idea page.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
What if people could pay a small monthly fee to see all future ideas by specific ideators before they are shared publicly? Then they could buy the ideas and not have them shared on the platform.
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Shubhankar Kulkarni3 years ago
Darko Savic Seems like a good addition. The primary investors of the ideator could be exempt from the fee since they are paying the ideator as it is. The other investors may have a look at the idea if the primary investor "passes" on the idea. Then, the general platform users who have paid a fee get to view the idea. After a while, the idea is free for viewing.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Shubhankar Kulkarni, by "ideators", I sense you mean generally, including problem solvers or value creators; undoubtedly, bearing in mind the difference.
The distinction is critical because investors do not necessarily invest in ideas per se, but solutions to identifiable market problems - the more radical and disruptive, the more valuable is the solution or value proposition.
That said, one could see how the idea might work in practice, considering that there is a comparable precedence - the football market, with football clubs investing in footballers.
This means that the value creator ("ideator") has to exhibit beforehand, investable market problem-solving/value-creation skills, which raises the issue of the right mechanism.
Brainstorming could provide that mechanism by hosting a marketplace and an incubator.
Marketplace is a sort of reverse challenge, where ideators and problem solvers showcase their skills based on their solutions to challenges and value propositions they offer for private sale, development, joint venture (JV), fundraising, etc.
Incubator is where teams of Brainstormers collaborate to develop solutions initiated through challenges, which may organically lead to startups and other projects.
For more details of the suggested Brainstorming Marketplace, see section3.50 and associated notes15-18; how Fundraising works, see 9.22; and Incubation, see 3.40/note 11 of this proposed draft preliminary business plan here.
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Mutual YouTube Channel Project
BasaroS / Astral_OnlineApr 28, 2022
Hi ✌^_^ ! )
In My Previous Creative Contribution I have described one of the way to receive stable source of income from Brainstorming . But those method works with some Clients flow with orders on this platform , who offer some Bounty Reward .
Another way to have monetization to ideators is for You ( Brainstorming Crew ) to create a YouTube channel , hire or do by Yourself Video Visualisations of very good Ideas ( this could be 2D and 3D directed Content ) . You should make It as much as possible on stable basis and invest some money for Google AdSense . In first time You`ll have some Audience and low income , but later Your investments can ROI and You`ll have stable growing income . I can`t say exact income , but I barely know that 200 k followers channel can provide 1-2-3 k $ from a single Video .
New Ideas - is very attractive Content .
Besides You can receive some money from Donations , Patreon , NFT , Merch and In-Built Private Promotion Ads .
And this is additional marketing to this Platform .
What about money to Brainstorming freelancers ? I guess it is fair for You to have 50 % / 50 % from that YouTube income ( You handle platform and create Video Content , Ideators come with Ideas ) , + You can give Ideators not 50 % , but 40 % to those Ideators , whos Ideas was visualized , and 10 % spread among new Ideas to motivate Ideators ( as small grants / donation / tips ) .
Yep , that is not that fast and easy , but I know some YouTube channels with Science Content and They bring millions of $ annualy . From Google Ads , Donations , some Private In-Built Ads , Collabs etc . .
Besides , this might be a best Way to find someone , who can invest in Cool Idea .
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Ideation marketplaces (NFT based) & and example intervention ideas
The Social Super SquadMay 18, 2022
Selling an idea should be like selling a video effect sample or a music beat. A producer can offer their beats, rappers or recordpables for example can buy them. An ideator should be able to sell ideas (for example as an NFT). Companies, organizations or other can buy them and use them and get its intellectual property rights.
They/ we are intellectual producers!
Taking the "buy my idea or hire me for a rate" position as an ideator or designer could greatly benefit ideators and designers as a whole since they are often expected to just come up with many ideas and solutions as if its easy. But actually it should be treated the same as selling bread, a music beat or a video effect sample.
Solution: NFTbased Ideation marketplace where you can buy ideas/ concepts that are in different phases:
Phase 1: Creative Research, casestudies
Phase 2: Complete written Concept
Phase 3: Concept + paper prototype
Additionally: Smaller ideas, innovation prompts, sketches
Example intervention 1: Additionally thinktanks, bootcamps and hackathons should have a marketplace (organization) where ideas are archived and registered to be sold
Example intervention 2: Art academies can take common responsibility to register good (student made) projects/ ideas and create the oppertunity for entrepreneurship and ownership early on
Example intervention 3: Art/ArtED/Design/Innovation organizations and networks should join forced by using a DAO. An IDO could be established to launch the "Buy my Idea or hire me for a rate" campaign and reposition and emphisize the importance of ideators. A marketplace could be built by with the funds of the IDO. This is ofcourse only possible if you form a project or organization meant to onboard these groups
Example intervention 4: Collaborate with The Social Super Squad (https://twitter.com/S_Super_Squad)
and work on practical solutions like these together!
P.S plenty more where that came from
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Get funding from governmental budgets
Miloš StankovićMay 18, 2022
Have ideators focus on solving issues that burden countries or other smaller types of governmental organisations like regions, counties, and cities. Prove yourself in that field on a platform like this one.
Then have a portion of the tax fund dedicated to the ideators that would brainstorm their way into solving the issues, while the elected officials can focus on executing.
This is also a way for governments to get ahead in geopolitical races without bogging down creative minds via bureaucracy.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
This could be done by establishing problem-solving as a national sport
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Establish ideation and brainstorming as a profession, branch of consulting
Michaela DMay 18, 2022
One of the issues with ideation and brainstorming is that people don't really see them as a job itself. This used to be the case with consulting a long time ago. The more people as exposed to it the more they will seek out these services.
This advertising can be a collective effort of ideators and can entail job ads and professional netowrking.
You cannot seek out something you do not know that exists. For example, ideation is a term very few people know and even fewer use.
Also, ideation and brainstorming can start off as a branch of consulting, which is a better known term and develop futher from there.
Consulting companies would be interested in having some employees that are "specialised" in ideation and brainstorming. Having people with this specialisation in well known firms will help the profession bloom.
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Pay for "dibs" to an idea
Darko SavicMay 21, 2022
Inspired by Shubhankar Kulkarni's contribution:
What if people could pay a monthly micro-fee to be able to see an ideator's ideas before they are shared publicly on their portfolio? People would then get a chance to buy it so that it's never posted.
People could bid for a higher position in line. The highest bidder gets to see the idea X minutes before the next one, and so on.
The money goes to the ideator and is seen as support for their work/efforts.
The process would be transparent. Every step is timestamped and publicly visible, even if the content itself is not (yet) visible. Everyone can see when an idea is added and who can see it at that point. This is aimed at preventing theft/republishing by those who paid for dibs.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
This would in essence be a similar monetization model as Patreon or Onlyfans are using. People pay for exclusive content for each individual creator they wish to support. In the case of Brainstorming, they get:
potential dibs on all ideator's ideas (ability to buy them before they get shared)
access to each ideator's top 10% of ideas that are withheld from the public
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ideas ebay
Mikhail KorsanovMay 21, 2022
I believe first we need to prove that using a pool of ideators improves functioning of a business. Next, you can create an opp for businessmen and top-managers to place orders for idea generating. Firstly, they may be free. But when sufficient demand is there, some may be paid. The more the demand is, the higher is the pay. Next, you evaluate strenth of each ideator. Those who are stronger, get a higher share of the pie. Some clients may want to pay for guaranteed participation of the best verified ideators in their challenge. Then they pay enough to cover time and efforts of each of the best ideators.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
Paid invitations would be useful. For example, a challenge creator could offer specific ideators some amount to participate. For example, $20 to join in and contribute something of value, to the best of the ideator's ability. The ideator may choose to accept (get paid) or not. Value is subjective, so there are no expectations. The challenge creator learns from experience. Those who contributed something valuable would be invited again next time.
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Mikhail Korsanov3 years ago
Darko Savic To make this system work, it needs to buy leads both for ideators and clients. Also, brainstroming.com should think about how to scale up moderation: otherwise buying leads will not work out. Also, I suppose you would need to calculate the business model: to pay off the leads baught. Also, you need a system that will control expenses and results to make reality fit the model.
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Find your niche
Goran RadanovicApr 19, 2022
I believe that the most important aspect ideators need to determine for making money is a niche. Ideators are experts in their fields, and a jack-of-all-trades won't suffice in this industry.
You need to provide solutions for a specific industry, enabling you to market your efforts towards them.
Once you've identified your industry, approach companies to analyse their businesses and provide solutions. You can negotiate an agreement that makes you eligible for payment only if you've solved a big problem a company faces.
If you do a good job, companies will ask for your assistance in various departments and recommend you to their business friends.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
Goran Radanovic, Ideators and Problem Solvers, by their very nature, are intellectually curious, keen to learn, industry agnostic and rigorous researchers.
Some are polymaths by nature and/or training, like architects. This means that their skillsets allow them to comfortably engage in any discipline or interests.
So, the suggestion that Ideators and Problem Solvers should restrain their natural intellectual curiosity to niches, would simply seem counterintuitive and tentamount to intellectual incarceration.
Essentially, they are value creators and need the freedom to seek, find, explore and develop new ideas and solutions for a better world.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
Sometimes it takes a jack-of-all-trades who is able to draw unexpected connections between ideas that seemingly don't fit together. This can get the experts un-stuck so that they can proceed to solve the problem at hand.
From my experience, new ideas require exposure to new concepts. At the very least, attending conferences that are out of their immediate field of interest should do well for experts.
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Model: 1. idea-generator 2. idea 3. concept elaboration 4. promotion 5. selling of "creative consulting"
Mikhail KorsanovApr 25, 2022
This model will only work for streaming idea generators and pools of such ideators.
If there is a stream of ideas (like mine, for example - see http://better-life.ru/my_ideas.html - in Russian), and the generator can generate a stream on any given topic, he places the stream of his ideas on the site.
Next, the site invites other ideators, experts and people with critical turn of mind to work out basic ideas with criticism and additional ideas in order to achieve a mature idea, that is, a concept with worked out details and objections, reinforced with additional ideas. As a result we get an "ideas' crystal" of a high value, it can be implemented relatively easily and efficiently.
Then the marketing person comes into play, who decides who can implement this idea or contribute to the implementation - the definition of target audiences. Other participants can help too.
Next comes the sales copywriter and creator, who creates creatives and other materials that promote the idea, aimed at each of the target audiences.
In parallel to each idea, a fan club is created from people who are enthusiastic about the idea. This can be done using sites such as change.org, a creative (text, video, etc.) for which a marketing person and sales copywriter also create.
Then, with the help of fans pool for the idea (they can also improve the concept and add ideas to the kit promoted by those who can implement it), email, telephone and other types of motivational campaigns are launched, aimed at each of the target audiences of those who can implement the concept or fascilitate its realization (for example, specific mass media).
When the idea center receives a lead: a response from some of the target audiences, with an interest in negotiating the implementation of the concept, a professional sales expert enter the business, the purpose of which is to conclude a contract with the entity that implements the concept, on ideological support for the implementation of the concept using a pool of idea generators, including the author of the idea and his associates who took part in the creation and development of the concept.
Thanks to the ideator pool support, the project will be implemented much faster and more successfully: that's the sales point to motivate the client. Usually in the process of implementation there are numerous pitfalls. With a pool of ideators, they will be quickly overcome thanks to ideators' creative potential and enthusiasm.
Also, at the same time, the services of a pool of pro ideators are sold to solve other problems and tasks of the client, as a comprehensive service for the prosperity of his business or other mission: the clients can be not only business, but also non-profit and government organizations.
Within the pool of experts, there should be a rating system that estimates the level of the qualifications of the ideators objectively in order to determine the level of remuneration that each one will receive.
Ideators' pool gets a part of profit, shares in the company, options, pay-per 100 ideas generated, a month/year of collaboration, on a mixed basis, or on some other basis, by the contract with the concept implementor.
Thus, for an ideator, his idea is only an advertising, demonstration for his talent, to let a sales person to conclude a contract with the concept impementor.
Also, for non-pro idea generators, I propose to create a course, allowing them to develop their talents, and become pro, to participate for money in the ideators' pool. Self-made talents can be qualified as ideator experts for renumerated participation without training.
If you like this concept, invite me. I am a serial ideator (over 700 free ideas at http://better-life.ru/my_ideas.html - you can Google-translate them from Russian), I have business experience since 1991 (since my childhood). I have been thinking over this concept for many years.
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Time , Equity , Marketing , Patience , Scale .
BasaroS / Astral_OnlineApr 25, 2022
Hello ✌^_^ !
First I have to write about Freelance Sphere - Freelance is not something that You start to live for in some days , It could took months and years before freelancer can actually start to live only for money that gained from Freelance .
Meaning that We need to understand , that Brainstorming is a sort of Freelance Blockchained Virtual Assistant .
In nearby future We can`t live just for Brainstorming . In year or two - maybe .
But We can receive some money each months , thats true , and that is very helpful !
For example I know some Persons who works as freelancers to have ADDITIONAL source of of money and that`s makes sense .
Next - freelance #1 problem - 1 order - 1 freelancer .
Brainstorming can have advantage , bcs 1 order - many contributors - each receive shared bounty ( as described in 1`s link ) .
That means that to make Brainstorming as cool source of money We need to :
Make more Equity for bounty payment as described here : https://brainstorming.com/r/OdL85b
Attract and achieve more " Bounty Contributors " on stable basis ( SMM , Digital Magazines , Ads etc . ) anyhow .
Scale Brainstorming.com as much as possible .
Summary that gives Us 5-10 bounty challenges each week , for each bounty Brainstormer Contributor receives 5-50 +- bucks . This gives Us $ 25-500 per week . In My Country ( Ukraine ) 300-500 bucks per month is an avarage sallary , so for Brainstorming $ 200-300 per month is enough for Me to be involved as much as possible ( half time ) and to pick up each and every Challenge . 300-500 bucks per month - full time . $ 199 and less - still sweet to be involved at free time .
Summary :
Better Equity / Justice for every contributor -> more Orders -> more Shared Bounties -> year or two -> living for Brainstorming as main source of Money for Smart and Wise , Talented and Patient / Endurant Brainstormers .
Honestly !
Best Regards ✌^_^ !
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Sell ideas online as a one-time offer or an open deal (stock-inspired)
jnikolaApr 26, 2022
As a combination of Subash Chapagain idea bank contribution and Shubhankar Kulkarni stock-inspired investment in ideas, I would suggest an option for the platform like Brainstorming that would help freelancer ideators to earn money in a way they prefer.
Idea
Selling ideas as a one-time deal or leaving the deal open for the price change
Why?
To put the focus on originality and creativity and reward ideators accordingly. As Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram said: "For those who create one thing from scratch, you must get an extra credit score than in case you are resharing one thing that you simply discovered from another person. We’ll do extra to try to worth authentic content material extra, significantly in comparison with reposted content material." It's important to see how original you are. It can help you rethink, redesign and grow. It's the key principle of creating new value.
The selling point
Once the ideator has written an idea, it posts it. In a day or two, the idea gets assessed for originality, creativity and similarity (by the in-built platform function or paid third-party service). The algorithm doing the assessment is similar to the new Instragram algorithm that prioritises the original work. Once the idea is assessed, a contributor gets an offer from the platform (e.g. 5 USD). If the idea is highly original, the ideator gets more. However, in that moment, the ideator can choose:
to sell an idea to the platform --> the idea enters a giant pool of ideas, gets edited for easier browsing and is presented to premium or free users, depending the topic, interest, etc.
to keep the idea for itself --> the idea gets a starting price defined by the platform in the above described fashion and the price changes if:
the ideas on the same topic become a hot (or cold) field of ideation
the ideas on the same topic get sold to the platform (or the other way around)
the ideas get likes, comments, shares and contributions
if the idea gets referenced
if the idea gets tipped or gets an offer from the other user
etc.
If the ideator chooses the latter, it can sell the idea to the other users or to the platform at any time for the price at that moment.
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D. Eagle3 years ago
J. Nikola, keeping in mind the object of this challenge, the intent is to optimise the inherent value of the idea, solution or value proposition and its sustainable income-generating potential for the ideator or problem solver (value creator).
It is wise to preserve the value of the idea or solution by offering it as commercially sensitive and/or confidential information in a private (closed), not public (open) sale.
One of the outlets available to the ideator or problem solver to generate sustainable income, and the context of your proposition, is the Marketplace.
In the Marketplace, the value creator has the opportunity to offer their value proposition for, not only private sale, but also joint development with others in the Incubator, and fundraising at preseed or prerevenue stage.
Any of the private transactions would involve an initial publication of a very limited info about the value proposition.
The value creator may provide further details on request, to enable the interested party understand the basic principle of the proposition, if necessary and decide whether to proceed.
Any futher info would not involve disclosure of confidential information at that stage.
In the event that the potential buyer decides to proceed with the sale, s/he must deposit the agreed price in an escrow account and thereafter, is bound by the sale.
Any sale of the idea and transfer of inherent rights (yes, there are rights - to be discussed later) may involve residual rights to share of future proceeds of sale, and intellectual property (IP) rights/royalties, etc.
Remember, this is about enhancing the income-generating value of the idea or solution for the value creator.
Exclusion of the residual rights may reflect in a higher price offer.
For further details of the proposed Marketplace, see section 3.50/notes 15-18 here.
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jnikola3 years ago
D. Eagle First, thank you for the effort of writing a detailed contribution. Second, congratulation for taking the time to write a preliminary plan of the Marketplace idea, and thank you for sharing it with us. A lot of work!
I agree with all points you raised here. If the intent was to optimize the inherent value of the idea, solution, or value proposition and its sustainable income-generating potential for the ideator, then yes, the idea should be served as commercially sensitive, confidential (but informative), private, and probably contain both, the inherent and residual rights.
I posted this contribution as an idea to answer Darko Savic's question "How can talented ideators earn a regular income from their ideas alone (without execution)?" Along with that, I wanted to give my perspective on how talented brainstormers/ideators can earn a regular sustainable income by selling their ideas of how some problems can be solved, without execution. As we know, the execution is what usually makes a difference between a successful and non-successful company (other messaging apps vs. WhatsApp, for example). That's the reason why I don't think there are certain rights tight to ideas. In a very long and exhausting journey of solving problems, having the idea is just the first step that needs to be followed by thousands more. That's why I think the idea itself is not a value and doesn't carry any rights. Yes, in the private sector of already developed companies, ideas are sometimes worth a lot, I agree. But here, where random people connect the dots to generate some valuable ideas, entertain themselves, read new content, help people find solutions, and occasionally earn something, selling the idea as valuable written content without a need or a will to execute them seems legit, right? Of course, I think keeping some of the rights tied to the authors (as Shubhankar Kulkarni proposed) is very helpful and should be implemented.
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Shubhankar Kulkarni3 years ago
How is copyright incorporated into this whole thing? Since you are selling ideas to the platform, do you need to transfer some kind of rights to the platform (including reselling rights since the platform will sell the idea to its clients)? What happens to the rights if the idea is benched (the second option)? Will it still be visible to platform users? If yes, is it free for them to replicate it and use it however they wish, and how would you control that if it is not free? If not, how would such ideas be seen by the users and tipped/ bought/ etc.?
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"Upwork" for ideators
Povilas SMay 18, 2022
Similarly to many freelancing platforms, there could be one dedicated specifically to ideators.
How it works: Anyone with a particular problem can go to the platform and post a job offer to solve it. Ideators then bid on that problem/task, they indicate how much they’d like to be paid for offering their solution(s), they can shortly introduce themselves and reason why the client should choose them for solving that problem. Each ideator has a profile, it showcases for which clients they have worked in the past, the reviews, the ratings, the average price they charge for solving problems, their past working experience, education, etc.
Once the client chooses a particular ideator (or a few of them) he/she then puts part of the agreed payment sum in escrow. After the ideator(s) offer their solutions the sum is released if the client is happy, if not, the moderators of the platform can help negotiate the issue. If the ideator had enough experience and past reviews from clients, the above-mentioned situation (client is not happy about the solution) would happen rarely, if ever. If the client hired a few ideators to work on the same problem, they could collaborate through dedicated chat rooms and share the payment.
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Darko Savic3 years ago
Adding just the profession description "ideator" to Upwork would work, right? But people would still need a good way to demonstrate their abilities. This is what the profile pages on Brainstorming would be great for
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Povilas S3 years ago
Darko Savic I think while ideator as a profession is not well known and accepted, a separate site would work way better. I agree with the last sentence:)
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Shubhankar Kulkarni3 years ago
On platforms like Upwork, the end goal is rarely unknown. You post a job when you know what you want from the freelancer. Therefore, there is rarely a huge difference between the job poster's expectations and the completed job. In the case of ideation (which is coming up with something the client had never thought about), the completed job could be fairly different from what the client could envision. If the client does not approve, the platform will have to spend a lot of resources in moderation since the matter is more subjective than objective. This is not necessarily an insurmountable hurdle, but something to think about.
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