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A Device That Monitors Your Sleep and Wakes You After X Hours of Sleep

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Jamila Sep 22, 2020

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Povilas S3 months ago

I wouldn't underestimate already existing apps. There is an app called "sleep cycle". It works by monitoring your movements in bed as you sleep (by microphone and probably movement sensors as well) and determines which sleep phase are you in. As you sleep your brain activity cycles through phases from shallow sleep after just falling asleep, sinking down to the deep sleep in which you rest the most, and then "rise" up again to REM sleep from which you either wake up naturally, if you went through enough cycles or continue the cycle again. It's the best to wake up from a "shallow" phase in a sleep cycle. If I remember everything correctly, one full sleep cycle lasts for ~1,5 hours, so deep sleep last approximately 30 minutes, an app is therefore designed so that you can set up an alarm clock in a range of time, for example, not at 9:00 am, but between 8:30 and 9 and it chooses the best moment depending on your movements by which it decides which place are you at in your sleep. If you are woken up directly from deep sleep, you feel irritated and not rested, but if you're woken up from a shallow sleep phase, you feel that waking up was much more gentle and feel more rested. To have 6 full cycles is generally considered the best I think. But you can as well have just one or few of them and still feel reasonably good if you wake up from the right phase. I tried this app around a year ago, now it can be changed/improved. It shows graphs of how you sleep, like how your movements changed from irritated to calm, then irritated back again, etc., it's really interesting to see those. You can also listen to recordings, it distinguishes if, when, and for how long you snored for example;D So it's kind of watching yourself as you sleep. 

Juran3 months ago

I completely agree with the part of awakening from the deep sleep phase being harder than from the shallow one. It can help an individual to get up more gently and in that case, wearable sleep trackers could work. But I am not quite convinced that the current apps can do quality sleep tracking. I know it is not the topic and maybe I am just being traditional, but it all just sounds like a marketing trick to gather our personal data even when we sleep. I even heard of recent lawsuits connected to the sleep-tracking devices (https://pdfserver.amlaw.com/ca/BrickmanvFitbit.pdf#link=%7B%22role%22:%22standard%22,%22href%22:%22http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/ca/BrickmanvFitbit.pdf%22,%22target%22:%22%22,%22absolute%22:%22%22,%22linkText%22:%22and%20a%20recent%20lawsuit%22%7D). The thing is, I was amazed when the first sleep tracker app was presented, but the excitement vanished fast. Sleep-tracking technologies are developing really fast, giving you more information with fewer wearables. Although we find it handy and entertaining to watch our sleep statistics, I wouldn't elevate the sleep-tracking applications yet. The first problem I see is the methodology. The gold standard for sleep tracking is Polysomnography (PSG), the most detailed set of metrics such as the heart (ECG), brain (EEG), muscle (EMG), and eye movements (EOG), along with few others. Since the body is not always in a perfect line with the brain, and sleep is a state of altered consciousness, brain activity status is considered the most valuable and precise information. While PSG is used in clinics, apps use different approaches and individual metrics. Wrist actinographs and accelerometers, HR and HRV sensors, vibration trackers, they all do an interesting, but lazy job figuring out how good we have slept. Wrist muscle tone tracker was found to be wrongly estimating the sleep quality. Old iPhones used the technology of mattress vibrations but gave up because of unreliable information (e.g low sensitivity to micro-movements). The point is, by lowering the number of parameters measured, the quality is drastically falling. The second problem is the interpretation of the data. While in clinics, doctors specialized, experienced, and trained to read and interpret the PSG results mostly do a good job estimating the quality of sleep with minor deviances, apps are still not there (https://towardsdatascience.com/sleep-monitoring-digital-technologies-and-clinical-trials-9bfbd22978f9).

Povilas S3 months ago

That's true - the app I mentioned is not very precise in guessing your sleep status. I've downloaded it again now. Sometimes it thinks you were awake when you know that you were asleep at that time, I've noticed that. But on the other hand, it's quite good having in mind that it only uses microphone to detect this. If the precision was improved it would be great. About stealing and selling your data - I would doubt that's their main focus, I think their tactics is to develop a good enough app that people would like and want to pay for (maybe on the side they do some data smuggling, who knows;D). They have both free and subscription versions of the app, the latter comes with more functions, but there are no ads in the free version. A more complicated situation is when an app uses your direct bodily parameters, as you mentioned, then it could get a picture of your entire physiological functions and sell that profile, if it only uses a microphone that's not such a big threat. It also works offline, so you don't have to keep it connected to the internet. But even if there was a separate device for sleep monitoring - like a smartwatch, it would most likely be wi-fi enabled and could send your data somewhere whenever it had access to the internet, unless the manufacturers would specifically focus on their customers' data protection. It all comes down to trust in the end..

Darko Savic4 months ago

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